fooled me once---shame on you!
fooled me twice---shame on me!
fooled me thrice---ain’t gonna ever happen!.
A blatant catch 22 of the JW
A requisite to be promoted to elder is to be an exemplary family man,
and to become an exemplary elder you have to be a lousy family man. So you would expect elders to be demoted at this point so they can be exemplary family man again and start the cycle all over, but nooo. The Watchtower does not want to get into a vicious circle so they ignore the obvious problem, and they might as well say "Be loyal to the WT in spite of your family"
your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.
in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.
If I may add an unrelated comment.
I like the new Vivian. I haven't given as many "likes" to one person as I have today.
your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.
in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.
Given our knowledge of every phenomena around us, the only way God can be inserted in the whole thing is, as others have said it already, is the God who created the laws of Physics. And if he has any role after that, he is making sure that they are not violated. Everything else, including suffering and evolution, is subject to those inviolable laws. Thank God for the consistency and therefore the predictability of phenomena.
i've heard some weird stories coming from jws about the paranormal.
i know about the warnings about items that come from unbelievers -- those don't interest me as much.
what i am interested in are actual experiences in stories of the paranormal you've heard or experienced yourself.
Never had any paranormal experience, but I know plenty of normal looking JW's who claim that they purchased second hand clothes and when they brought it home the demons/spirits/ghosts haunted the house. When they got rid of the clothes the problem was solved.
My JW nephew claims that he heard noises and furniture moving in his bedroom during the night that he borrowed a Harry Potter book from a friend.
your qualifications are way above mine so i'd love to hear more about the specifics of what you have researched and how that supports the existence of a deity.
k99, i am not really convinced that you're interested in my conclusions.
in nature amino acids formed to then form dna.
Why should we suppose our view of reality is more truthful than a dolphin for example?
who cares about absolute "truth", whatever that means to you. The dolphin is not likely to travel to the moon, or experience roller coaster thrills, or have humans jump out of the water to entertain an audience full of dolphins. Sure, the life of a dolphin must be interesting, but it's no match for the myriad of possibilities available to humans. This business of truth/false should be approached as a practical matter that provides a common frame of reference to settle our disagreements.
oops, sorry about that - the last update caused a few server errors on some topics.
they should be ok now.. just rolling out some more updates to make things slightly quicker and lay the foundation for future improvements..
I can't rely on a demon infested free forum that has a failure rate of 0.00001 %. I hope the new order comes soon.
7200 peak attendance 31 baptised.
on par with less than 1/2 % growth.
david " zzzz" splane gave talks.
You can't infer growth from baptisms at a convention
So true, and yet is a reflection of trends that closely correlate to growth. It's like polls, they don't have the final word, but more often than not point in that direction.
http://www.brooklyneagle.com/articles/2016/8/5/jehovahs-witnesses-will-start-moving-out-brooklyn-heights-headquarters-september.
the jehovah's witnesses will start moving out of brooklyn heights headquarters in september.
farewell to the jehovah's witnesses, who are moving out of their world headquarters at 25-30 columbia heights.
An era has ended, that's for sure.
Indeed. The best times are over. Downhill all the way from here
hello brothers and sisters and truth seekers,.
i am an active jehovah's witness.
i don't believe in 1914 and i'm tototally against their way of dealing with abuse cases.
Andromeda,
Interesting, you are a person who defers to Bible scholars, but reads the bible literally. I don't think there are many Bible scholar who believe much of Genesis is factual. I am not quite sure what you call Bible scholars, Maybe you are consulting other religious fundamentalists, not the real Bible scholars.
they say women are hard to figure out.
she is is proactive about retirement planning but talks about how things might be in the new system.
she shuns one of our children (dfd) but put him as beneficiary one one of her life insurance policies.
My own JW brother is doing that. He and his wife have life insurances. He admitted that he believes that he will die before the big A hits. He is 52 and in excellent health. He has insisted that his children get a University education. He supports wholeheartedly his two older sons in their new business. He has a 25% stake in that business. He puts money into a retirement account.
I sometimes think that he knows it's all BS, but it's to late to quit. His wife is a die hard believer. They have a zillion friends, all JW's.
